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would seem to argue that art is worth the loss of life. but one artist himself who missed his son's birthdays while serving in italy stated otherwise. the life of one american boy is worth infinitely more than any monument i know. he risked his life not to save beautiful objects but to defend the cause george stout wrote about. preservation of our shared heritage. dare to dream big because
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today's celebration is the culmination of nine years of service. thanks to the dedicated work of several authors, researchers, and an attorney in our audience in the advocacy of the foundation for the preservation of art, the achievements of these heroes of civilization are now widely known. we live in hope that the sacrifices of the monuments men and the dedication of all of those who served in the fine arts and archives section will not reside in our memory. rather, they will live in our hearts to inspire us to protect and preserve things of knowledge and beauty that we have inherited. [applause]
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>> ladies and gentlemen, the united states army band and army voices. ♪ ♪
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n every seeing you i lovely summer's day. in everything that is light and gay. i will always think of you that way. i find you in the morning time. be looking at the moon. singing be ♪
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[applause] treet sit under the apple with anyone else but me. ♪ lover's go walking down me. with anyone else but till i come marching home. ♪
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sweet home., home, don't go walking down the lover's lane, walking down the lover's lane, when you see me marching home we will go marching arm and arm. baby just you and me ♪n i come marching home. [applause] >> ladies and gentlemen, the
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honorable nancy pelosi. [applause] mrs. pelosi: good afternoon everyone. this ceremony is an emotional time for everybody. thank you for making this so lovely. i want to a knowledge the leadership of senator menendez. thank you so much. and also, chairman of the monuments men foundation, you
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have done such a large part in preserving art and we are honored by your presence. in march 1940 one, president 1941, president roosevelt dedicated the national gallery of art just down the mall from here. as the crowd gathered, britian struggled under the blitz. war, as world at president roosevelt opened a new home for the world's masterworks, president roosevelt spoke about what the mission was. he said this. whatever these paintings may
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have been to those that looked at them, generations back, today they are the symbols of the human spirit. as we saw in the film, these are the ideals which the war was thought. thank you, eisenhower for honoring us with your presence today, as well. -- thank you anne eisenhower for honoring us with your presence today, as well. across the world set ablaze by destruction, against the last thrashers of nazi nihilism, preserved the treasures of humanity. that was the charge. miles, thousand of
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operating with few sources and little authority, the monuments men -- as just a handful of men and women, i want to emphasize the women, never more than a few hundred, fought to rescue artifacts and protect them through the fire of military advance. some gave their lives in the effort. thanks to the monument men, the war would not also destroy the creativity that connects us to the heritage of civilization. millions of artifacts were saved.
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the greatest force for good is imagination. it is imagination that sums up creativity and art and our common humanity finds a home. we see what we have in common. we understand other people's thinking. this was not just about the object, it was about the creativity and imagination which is a force for good. with the last living monuments men among us, and women, we are in the presence of greatness. thank you for your greatness of courage and commitment. we will be hearing from you. thank you, and welcome. i also want to acknowledge
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because of what i said earlier, so many family members are here. thank you to all of the family members who are here. as we award the congressional medals to these men and women, we recognize the truth about our own to add presedent roosevelt's wisdom to the national gallery. welcome, ambassadors. today, the art of the the nfaa returns. not only the devotion and aristry of old ages, they
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demonstrate the creativity of the men and women who are honored with this ceremony today. lustreceibing it brings to this honor. congratulations, and thank you. [applause] >> ladies and gentlemen, the democratic leader of the united states senate, the honorable harry reid. [applause] sen. reid: nothing is sacred to the aggressors. powers.s for the axis as troops rolled across the globe, millions of innocent people and entire countries and cultures fell victim to the war machine. even history itself was threatened by adolf hitler and his accomplishments.
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structures were bombed into oblivion. museums were plundered. heirlooms were lost forever. a battle against culture and history is being waged today. isis destroys vestiges of ancient civilizations. patra was constructed during alexander the great's reign 300 years before christ. isis used large quantities of explosives to destroy it. a 2000 year old venetian temple in syria was destroyed.
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afghanistan, the taliban has destroyed giant sandstone statues of buddha that were 1700 years old. that is not all. in timbuktu, terrorists said fired to a library containing thousands and thousands of manuscripts dating back to the 13th century. a small piece of humanity is lost for eternity. that is what makes today special. what started as a handful of artists, 400 servicemen and civilians, in the midst of the
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world's largest war, it was an honor for me to meet each of you individually. i will always remember that. to the families of those who are no longer with us, you should be very proud. your loved ones served as guardians of history. it is not enough to recognize the monuments men because we have to work not to preserve what isis has not destroyed. we must emulate their courage. thank you very much. [applause] >> ladies and gentlemen, the majority leader of the honorable mitch mcconnell. [applause]
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sen. mcconnell: a few years ago, louisville' art museum unveileds an exhibit entitled kentucky home, colonial revival houses. since designing his first house as a teenager, hammond went on to become one of the most popular architects of the last century. his homes are still on the streets of louisville today. i am pleased to report that he is also a fellow graduate of dupont manual high school. he set the bar high for those of us who followed. hammond joined the army during world war ii. he participated in the normandy invasion in 1944.
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thanks to his background in art and architecture, he settled into the palace of versailles as monument officer at general eisenhower's headquarters. this kentuckian, who passed away in 1997, is one of the hundreds of monuments men we honor today. these men and women came from different countries. they hailed from vastly different backgrounds. but they share a common mission. to defend colonnades of civilization through crucibles of war. one man fled nazi germany one day after his bar mitzvah. another was london-raised, and
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became an art detective who helped recover priceless paintings. a native chicagoan in western germany. in the pacific theater, the american-born typist who generated field reports from monuments men in tokyo. these four men and women came from different circumstances. they each contributed in their own way. all advanced an important mission that could have easily been overlooked. all of these four people are with us today. [applause] after their service, many of the
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monuments men blended back into society as artists, for instance or curators. hammond returned to his architectural firm in kentucky. it is worth mentioning that his firm specialized in the effects of explosives on structural integrity. the service of the monuments men often went unheralded even though it had changed them. we owe men and women who served a real debt of gratitude. without their service, we may have won a war but lost our common heritage. the gold-medal we present today is our country's way of saying that your service should not only be recognized, but celebrated. it is our nation's way of saying
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thank you. [applause] >> ladies and gentlemen, the speaker of the house, the honorable john boehner. [applause] speaker boehner: in a few moments, we will have the presentation of the gold medals. this is the last time i will have this privilege. it has been quite a privilege. i mentioned the first person to be awarded a congressional gold medal was general george washington in 1776. as you can imagine, things got busy after that. it took 14 years for washington to actually get it. over that time, for different
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-- four different people were in charge of the project, including thomas jefferson who kept detailed notes on how they should be executed. he found a way to pay for it and had the work done in france. he then personally delivered the gold-medal to washington in new york along with a box of gold medals for his men. that is a chain of preservation which today's honorees can appreciate. because our founders follow through on this and some other things, we have this great tradition that is older than the country itself. we have a golden link to a time when america was merely a radical idea that anyone could contribute to the common good.
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we're honoring a group of people who acted on their own courage, reclaimed the world's most valuable treasures. the reattached the tendons to the bone of civilization's identity. ladies and gentlemen, we get to tell the stories. we get to toast our heroes. and we get to fall in love with freedom all over again. it shows our children what they can be. no task is more precious than that. no award is greater than this. we have struck a congressional gold medal which we will present now and always on behalf of a grateful nation.
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>> ladies and gentlemen, award recipient harry edlinger. harry: 72 years ago, the united states established a policy to protect artistic and cultural treasures of europe. this was counter to the policies of our enemies. the culture and art that they deemed inferior.
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first, a relatively tiny international group of men and women, led by the united states , andhe united kingdom tasked with implementing this new policy. the mission was dangerous. two monuments men were killed in combat to protect works of art. this moral group discovered nothing less than the greatest blunders ever perpetrated in the history of civilization. i will get to the page. today, only five of who the
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british and americans refer to as monuments men are still alive. four of our champions are here today. menehalf of the monuments alive and those who have gone to the great pr and, i graciously that theis great honor members of congress have bestowed upon us today. war, thed of the policies of western allies made victor do notthe belong the spoils of war. let us today openly promote the
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againt, let us again, and announced a the people of the that their culture will be cherished as long as they respect the culture of office. -- of others. [applause] god bless you, god bless america. >> coming up, coke industries spokesman steve lumbar to talks about the political activities
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of charles and david coke -- koch. later, a look at the rise of harrowing use in the united in the-- heroin use united states. on the next washington journal, we will look at free speech on college campuses. washington journal is live every morning at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. you can join the conversation with your calls and comments on facebook and twitter. >> all persons having this this before the honorable supreme court of the united states are admonished to draw near and give their attention. >> coming up on landmark cases -- a piece of paper and she demanded to see the paper and to read it, which they
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refused to do, sonographic out of his has to look at it and that a scuffle started, and she put this piece of paper into her bosom. very readily, the police officer put his hands into her bosom and removed the paper. and thereafter, handcuffed her. while the police officers started to search her. >> in 1957 the cleveland police went to her home, who they believed to be harboring suspected bomber and demented entry. she refused them access that i wore it. later, returning with a document they claimed was a warrant, they forced themselves into her home. suspect, police confiscated a trunk obtaining obscene pictures. she was arrested and sentenced
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to seven years for the contraband. she sued and the case made it all the way to the supreme court. that's coming up on the next landmark cases. 9:00 eastern on c-span, c-span3 and c-span radio. order your copy of the c-span book available at c-span.org. >> koch industries spokesman steve lombardo recently discussed the political influence of charles and david koch. topics included the network of think tanks and political groups supported by the koch brothers. this is 45 minutes.
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>> good morning. on behalf of faculty, staff, and students, i would like to welcome you and thank you for joining us this morning. the institute's mission is to engage and empower citizens to engage in the civic and political community. this morning's speaker, steve lombardo, is a graduate of saint and some college, class of 1981. he went on to achieve his esters of public policy. he serves as chief communication and marketing officer at koch industries, a politically active company with annual revenue of 115 billion dollars.
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mr. lombardo will be presenting a talk entitled, the ugly political spin, how koch is dr iving freedom, fairness, and prosperity. we will have a brief question-and-answer period. please wait until the student ambassador with the microphone reaches you before answering your question. please welcome steve lombardo. [applause] mr. lombardo: thank you. it's a pleasure to be here with everyone. i understand donald trump will be here tomorrow. it will be maybe a similar size audience for that. in the spirit of donald trump, i will estimate this audience at 5000 people. is everybody ok with that? it's great to be here, and it was maybe 30 years ago are so that i walked across a stage on this campus and accepted a
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diploma from saint anselm college, much to my professor's and my parent's dismay, but it was a special place, it's great to be back, it's incredible to see what has gone on here. frankly, the size, the scope, the facilities are just amazing and it's really terrific to be back. i graduated with a degree in political science and the lessons that i learned from that and from the experience, the professors i learned from, the ethics classes, the integrity that they instilled on young people like myself really has stayed with a my entire life and career. it's been a few years since i've been back, but the amazing growth on campus and the people are as vibrant as ever. i have worn a number of hats in my life and career, and i
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currently serve as communications and marketing officer for koch industries, and our principal shareholders are charles and david koch. don't lie, that name will either cause you to shudder or smile depending on your political perspective. but i want to do today is talk to you about the company i work for, the people i work for, and what they stand for, what we do, and have a discussion about that. i do encourage questions afterwards and i know i've got some friendly faces in the crowd and perhaps some not so friendly, but i look forward to that discussion. based on what you've read on tv, you've come in with a perception, a preconceived notion. perhaps what you've heard over the years may or may not be accurate. what i hope to do today is kind
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of fill in some of that information gap that you might have an talk a little bit about what we do. to kick things off, let me ask you a question. if i ask you, do you want to live in a country that maximizes peace and stability and well-being for all its citizens, i'm pretty sure your answer would be yes. if i ask you, do you believe in integrity, respect, responsibility and tolerance, and that they are important qualities to have, both as a person and as a nation, again, i'm pretty sure your answer would be yes. if i ask you what was the best way for us to promote and preserve these qualities, my guess is the answers would start to vary. that's because there are remarkably different and competing views on how to achieve those goals. that's what i want to talk to you a bit about this morning. for example, one vision is a vision that believes in life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, with minimal interference from government. another vision leaves most decision-making within reasonable limits to the individual.
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a much different vision believes that government must actively intervene. it's a vision that believes government usually knows better than the individual. 200 years ago, thomas jefferson predicted which of these two visions would have the upper hand. he said, quote, that -- the natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground. it is sad to say that that prediction pretty much has come true. does that sound extreme or perhaps extremely inaccurate to you? consider a few facts about our nation.
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occupational licensing is extremely burdensome. in several states, hair braiding license requires more training, time and investment that is required for -- than is required for emt's and those same states. on average it takes 372 days to become a licensed cosmetologist, while it only takes 33 days to become an emergency medical technician. consider also the government's response to uber, threatening the long-standing monopoly and stranglehold on pricing that municipal taxi systems have enjoyed for generations in various cities across the country. consider our criminal justice system which will send someone to jail for life because he's been busted for possessing and selling small amounts of pot three times, three strikes and you're out rule. another one off the hook for the same one crime due to his or her
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standing in society. these are real-life consequences of a top-down command and control system where politicians try to protect their supporters from competition. it's this mentality, this reluctance for government to allow people to succeed by
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an investment of $1,000 in 1960 would have a book value of $5 million today. a return 27 tumes higher than a similar unvestment in the 500. it's this framework that has allowed coke to do more than keep pace with the dramatic changes that occurred over the last several decades. think about it. energy the geopolitical map has been drawn and redrawn again. new technologies have transformed industry and
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businesses, and the pace has accelerated. market-based management has allowed them to do it all while earning what we call good profit. i will repeat that phrase again, good profits. it's good because they benefit everyone involved because they are voluntary and cooperative. good profit is also the title of charles koch's latest book. we believe good profit exists when you create value for others so that both you and they benefit. bad profit, created by market manipulation, cheating and subsidies, is the opposite. for example, when you go to the supermarket, you have a choice of which brand of paper towel to buy. no one is forcing you to choose one over the other. it's up to the company producing the product to earn your business by providing the best option and the greatest value while using the fewest resources. these types of transactions are win-win. value is created for the buyer and seller and this generates good profit. what we see all too often in washington today and really at all levels of government is that
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politicians are rigging the system to benefit a few. profits earned that way are anything but good, they are really bad. i remember solyndra, the american taxpayer saw first hand what happens when government intervenes to pick winners. solyndra has been politicized. that doesn't matter. when government chooses to reward this particular solar panel company with hundreds of millions of dollars in government subsidies, it distorted market prices, resulting in hundreds of millions of dollars in loss, -- lost taxpayer money when the company ultimately failed. politicians have created a culture that encourages businesses to seek out political favors, when those businesses should be developing products and services that succeed on their own merits. this is corporate welfare, welfare for the rich, and that's why were speaking out about it.
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what's outrageous about this relationship is that the largest beneficiaries of federal subsidies and tax credits are well-established corporations. for example, like ge and boeing, who would do perfectly fine on their own. what sense does it make to force taxpayers to provide huge companies like these with tens of millions of dollars in subsidies and tax credits? it really doesn't. when government imposes excessive regulations on taxes or taxes sometimes at the behest of those with the biggest lobbying presence or political clout, it becomes harder for new competitors in the market and with less competition, consumers pay more. in the end, you are left with a system of corporate welfare that stifles innovation, undermines prosperity, and destroys opportunities for the disadvantaged. that's why koch companies oppose
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subsidies even when we partake of them. we do take subsidies and our ethanol business, for example. we do that to maintain our competitive environment. we oppose them, we lobby against them at every opportunity we can. we oppose this bad profit because we believe people should only succeed by creating value for consumers and society as a whole. instead, our government is encouraging a system that creates corporate welfare for the rich. this not only corrupts the business community, it simultaneously destroys opportunities for the disadvantaged. in other words, government is enriching the haves at the expense of the have-not's. this is leading us down a path towards a two-tiered society. it's a recognition of this corrupting mentality that spurred our interest in reforming the criminal justice system and eliminating barriers to low income people starting a business or even getting a job.
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let me talk about that for a moment. at one point over the last several months you might have gone huh, did i hear that right? when president obama or valerie jarrett or van jones praised koch industries. you heard it right. charles koch likes to quote frederick douglass in saying, "i will unite with anyone and do good and with no one to do harm." it's that view which has led us to work with the obama administration and the aclu and the coalition for public safety, among others, to reform the criminal justice system, and address the issue of occupational licensing, both of which are obstacles to opportunity for the most disadvantaged. if we really want citizens to
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play a meaningful role in society, improve the lives of others and ultimately succeed, we can't lock them up and throw away the key and forget they exist. when they are released, we cannot treat them like second-class citizens. consider these sobering statistics. we spent $80 billion a year on incarceration and the united states, which is 3 to 4 times per capita what we spend on education. the federal prison population has grown 870% since 1980. the united states currently imprisons 25% of the world's prison population, even though we only make up 5% of the world's population, making the u.s. the largest jailer in the world. a proximally 35% of federal offenders are first-time nonviolent offenders, and more than half of the federal offenders are in prison for drug crimes. african americans, who make up 13% of the united states population, account for almost
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40% of inmates. to bring about a transformation on this issue we must all set aside partisan politics and offenders are first-time nonviolent offenders, and more collaborate on solutions. this is why for more than 10 years we have partnered with the national association of criminal defense lawyers to bring about positive change. one of our focuses is on restoring all rights to youthful nonviolent offenders. such as those involved in personal drug use violations. if ex-offenders can't get a job, education, or housing, how can we possibly expect them to lead a productive life in society? why should we be surprised than more than half -- when more than half of these people released from prison are getting incarcerated within three years of their release? congress is mobilizing around the issue as well.
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the senate is moving a bill of their own, both with bipartisan support. we're cautiously optimistic that 2016 will see a bill signed into law that will surely help most -- help the disadvantaged in society. we can't just sit around and wait for government to act. they play an important role, but companies like koch, individuals like yourself need to walk the walk and talk the talk. earlier this year koch industries took an important step to reform its hiring practice by deciding to remove questions about prior criminal convictions from our job applications. what this means is that companies who decide to quote unquote ban the box will now wait until prospective employees are being interviewed or have tentative job offers before asking about criminal history straight this gives someone with a criminal record a better shot at employment if they're not
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rejected at the very start of the process. it gives them the chance to explain what happened. we think this is the right move and we encourage other employers to follow suit. we can't stop criminal justice reform alone. that's not the only thing that needs fixing if we are truly going to help the disadvantaged. just important is helping people improve their lives, addressing how government is making it difficult to gain employment or start a business to begin with, because of burdensome occupational licensing requirements. i mentioned the example of cosmetologists and emt's at the beginning, but there are hundreds of these occupations and the government is helping establish businesses keep down the up and comers. big about taxi commissions
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versus uber. - think about taxi commissions versus uber. they team up with their friends and government for special treatment by imposing insane fees and training requirements on these individuals trying to work hard to make a living. governments at every level have prevented the creation of merely 3 million jobs and lowered entrepreneurship rates harming low income communities the most. like our focus on criminal justice reform, we're getting eady to address these issues in the coming months. we've heard the white house echo similar sentiments in recent months, so we're eager to carve out a pathway to reform on this front as well. from all that you've heard, clearly there's a lot more to koch then you may have thought when you walked in this morning. you are probably thinking, mission accomplished. done a good job. i will bet you have another question. i'm sure you are saying, steve, everything you're saying is well and good. i'm happy you care about the environment and all doing things there. i'm happy you're trying to help people get jobs and stay out of
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jail, but you are still trying to take over the country by spending hundreds of millions of dollars on elections. well, it's a fair question. it's an important one and i want to address it this morning. what most people don't know and i did not know until i started working with koch is that koch's coal foray into politics started in 2003 as a result of dissatisfaction with president george w. bush's policies. the out-of-control spending, the growth in size and scope of government, and the counterproductive wars. he seminar that the koch family started was a gathering of like-minded individuals who were and are worried about the country, the trajectory of the country, and it wasn't a partisan gathering either. it was about ideas. it's less about republicans versus democrats then it's
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about working to promote policies that will help people improve their lives. if you saw charles koch's interview recently with anthony mason on cbs a few weeks back, you may remember him saying that the democrats are taking us over the financial cliff and towards a two-tiered society at 100 miles per hour and republicans are doing it at 70 miles per hour. mr. koch's political nvolvement had less to do -- nothing to do with attaining republican party supremacy. for example, and more so with electing those individuals more ligned with policies that will help people improve their lives, whether they are republicans or democrats or whatever. charles koch describes himself as a classical liberal. i saw some media outlets report
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that charles koch considers himself a liberal, in other words a progressive in today's olitics. because of the fundamental misunderstanding of what the term actually means, a classical liberal is someone who wants a society that maximizes peace, stability, tolerance, and well-being for everyone. to do so, that requires equal treatment for everybody under the law. it requires a system that opens opportunities for everyone and does not inhibit innovation. it promotes a society and business environment in which people succeed by helping others improve their lives. regarding spending specifically, we talk about that. the donor network in which the kochs are part of projects to spend $250 million through a super pac and other advocacy groups in 2016. it all depends on how much the contributors actually decide to give.
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that is still a good chunk of change but it's far less than the almost $1 billion figure often thrown around in the media reports. super pac money is often referred to as dark because you don't have to disclose the donors. considering the heat that the kochs received for their political involvement, including 153 death threats alone, not all donors are willing to put their names out there, and i get that. it's also their right. 40 years ago, justice william brennan wrote that when it comes to money in politics, the first amendment considers political contributions to be the exercise of free speech. the supreme court has repeatedly recognized this. just as important as the 1995 ruling in mcintyre versus ohio, election commission which protected and anonymous speech and prevented the government from mandating the disclosure of identity in order to speak r support a cause.
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some may not like it and are free to debate the pros and cons of such a system, but the supreme court has been steadfast in its affirmation of the role and money in politics, specifically ones right to remain anonymous. to that point, charles koch deserves a little bit of credit. he personally remains transparent in his spending. all of what he gives personally to his foundations and to the pacs is public, and that's not most of what he gives. most of what he gives goes to his foundation, which funds multiple philanthropic endeavors throughout the country, including contributions for organizations like the united negro college fund, youth entrepreneurs, salvation army. he also finds the charles koch institute, an educational organization dedicated to giving others the opportunity to learn the principles that transform charles's life and enabled him to accomplish more
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than he ever dreamed possible. in other words, he supports ideas over politics. i don't say these things to make excuses. there's a lot of money on both ends of the political spectrum. the worst of it is the corporate money that is crippling this country. we believe the only prophet is beneficial -- that results from creating value for others, as we've seen through government mandates, but through mutually beneficial transactions. in short, we need a principle riven framework that focuses on creating freedom, opportunity and well-being for everyone, especially the least worst net. this is the key to unleashing a free society and making america everything that it can and should be. colleges such as saint anselm
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can play a pivotal role in this effort by ensuring that tomorrow's leaders are educated and inspired by the ideas of freedom, and that science, not partisan politics, provides the intellectual foundation for change. whether we like it or not, we have a choice to make here. do we want control and dependency to define our nation or cooperation and competition. would we rather have a culture of entitlement among the rich as well as the poor, or a culture of accomplishment. i'm confident that if we want to expand opportunity for everyone, we must help people their dreams, achieve those dreams rather than dictate how they should live their lives. as charles koch wrote in his book, for individuals to develop and have a chance of happiness, they must be free to make their own choices and
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mistakes rather than be forced to accept choices made by others. this is the essence of the difference between north korea and south korea. hong kong and mainland china, and in the past, east germany versus west, and countless other examples. history has repeatedly shown that protecting individual rights and promoting economic freedom does more than create a higher standard of living. these societies also enjoy cleaner environments, hire literacy rates, and less government and business corruption. that is why i believe a free, fair, and prosperous society is worth pursuing. i believe it is a future worth ighting for. it's up to you to decide if you want to do something about it. that's all i have and i'm happy to take questions, as many as we have time for. thank you.
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yes. >> what's the difference between the koch brothers and george soros? mr. lombardo: in what way? >> just from my perspective, i see the koch brothers maligned and i see george soros as a champion -- in the media, i don't. as you look at them and what they represent, what is the ifference between the two of them on what they may be seeking? maybe you can't speak to what george soros is seeking, but i'm curious. mr. lombardo: if you're talking about how they each use money and politics, i don't believe there is much of a difference going on there. there's a lot of organizations
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on the left, the democracy alliance, which has dozens and dozens of groups that support a progressive agenda, and that's a lot of quote unquote dark money, and that's been going on for years and that is fine. they have a right to do that, george soros has a right to do that. it's interesting that when other organizations that don't match the ideology start doing that, i think some people take exception to that, and you can't just have one standard for one side and one for the other. >> i am a democrat, but not a progressive. some of us still exist. a lot of us know that the environmental movement was co-opted by a lot of marxists. they use the environmental moment to get their agenda passed.
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you probably are in the trenches. i'm wondering if you can give me an us some specific example of where that's happened where you are producing energy that runs against this coalition of marxism and environmentalism. mr. lombardo: i'm going to take a tax here that i think the environmental movement, talk about the informal movement in general -- in general has been good in some respects. when i was a kid -- some people were throwing trash out the window. that's gone now. people respect the environment and treated as something that you may need to take care of. if coke industries --koch want to make the best products using the fewest resources possible, so conservation is a huge part of the entire company across the globe and what we do. when you manufacture things, stuff goes up in the air. we are trying to reduce that every year as much as ossible. all the things we use every day requires manufacturing,
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virtually everything. there are ways you can do that and do it better that is less harmful to the environment, and that is what koch is trying to do. we produce pollution control devices that other companies are using. we are proud of our record there. this isn't about being against the environmental movement. when you start harming some peoples lives, then i'm not sure we are making some of the right decisions. >> in a recent interview, charles koch claimed that oliticians are beholden to corporations and cronyism to get reelected and deemed that welfare for the wealthy. the koch network has poured millions of dollars into our political system.

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